2009年9月16日星期三

RE: [fw-mvc] so complex!

Awesome. i will donate as soon as i got my october wage

 

From: Pádraic Brady [mailto:padraic.brady@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:18 PM
To: Jon Lebensold
Cc: Zend Framework MVC
Subject: Re: [fw-mvc] so complex!

 

Another free resource is my own book, Zend Framework: Surviving The Deep End, which is available in HTML format online: http://www.survivethedeepend.com. I think the title says it all ;).

Getting started may take a bit of time, but the resources are out there if you look for them.

Pádraic Brady

http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.survivethedeepend.com
OpenID Europe Foundation Irish Representative

 

 


From: Jon Lebensold <jon@lebensold.ca>
To: J DeBord <jasdebord@gmail.com>
Cc: fw-mvc@lists.zend.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:43:23 AM
Subject: Re: [fw-mvc] so complex!

Hi J,

Thanks for the feedback,

the site is going to be undertaking an overhaul in the next few months. As a side project, this site has grown in its breadth since its humble beginnings and I know that the typical wordpress format just doesn't cut it anymore.

in terms of beginner content, I would suggest looking at the 1.8 bootstrapping video:
http://www.zendcasts.com/introduction-to-zend-18-a-look-at-zend_tool-and-bootstrapping/2009/05/
or the video covering the MVC folder structure (this is from december 2008):
http://www.zendcasts.com/zend-framework-mvc-folders/2008/12/

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:36 AM, J DeBord <jasdebord@gmail.com> wrote:

It can be tough at first, but with time it gets a lot easier. Just keep with it, ask questions here, use zendcasts.com, and don't give up. You won't "get it" overnight, but if you start simple and use it everyday for a couple weeks, you'll be fine. You'll probably get frustrated, especially if you are new to MVC or frameworks, but don't give up!

Jon Lebensold,

Your site has great content, no doubt about that. I would suggest tagging all the videos that could be considered "basic" or interesting for beginners, then linking to them from the front page. Today the front page of Zendcasts hit you with using cache to speed up webservices. While this is great, if someone new to ZF sees that first they might either not look for the basic stuff you have or think that the site might not have anythign to offer them.


J

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Franck Delage <zf@web82.org> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm new on this list, and also new in ZF. It's one month ago that I
began with it.

Two things have really helped me in understanding this great framework,
along with the good documentation yhat goes with it:

A very small but very good french tutorial with a picture that summarize
the engine of ZF :

http://www.kitpages.fr/zf_helper_plugin.php

And, must of the must, Jon Lenbensold wonderful videos ! Which makes me,
by the way, very proud to be next to him on that list :)

They are really very helpful and made to be understandable by a small
developper totally autodidact like me.

Hope this helps, and excuse my english (I'm french).

Best regards,

Franck.

--
Franck Delage
Création et hébergements de sites web
www.web82.net

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