Re: [fw-mvc] PageController + ActionStack vs. Simple MVC

With respect Jon, all other things being equal, there is no way the ActionStack outperformed a set of View Helpers. The margin of difference is at least 80%. If the ActionStack is outperforming VHs I'd love to know where the VH performance cost arose to break that distance.

Paddy

 

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From: Jon Whitcraft <jwhitcraft@mac.com>
To: Jurian Sluiman <subscribe@juriansluiman.nl>
Cc: fw-general@lists.zend.com; Christian Ehmig <ehmig@boerse-go.de>; fw-mvc@lists.zend.com
Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 2:00:15 PM
Subject: Re: [fw-mvc] PageController + ActionStack vs. Simple MVC

What I was told a while ago was the using the ActionStack or the $this->action() view helper is like running another request though.  I reprocesses your dispatch loop and all it's plug-ins.  This is really expensive for sites that have a lot of traffic as it has to run the dispatch loop x number of times.

If you actually look at the performance of doing it with the action stack vs doing it with custom view helpers you actually see a rise in pages per second served.

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Jon Whitcraft
Zend Certified Engineer
jwhitcraft@mac.com

Jurian Sluiman wrote:

I have almost the same usage. I create "pages" in XML which are decoupled from 
the modules. I.e. a contact page uses the module "text" to render some text 
and the module "contact" for the contact form. A page "Threecolumns" is just 
as simple as three times the module "text" being called. But there are pages 
("blog") which just contains the blog module.

I have posted about this issue some time ago, but nobody is able to justify 
why you shouldn't use the action helper / stack in this context. Of course you 
shouldn't use the stack for breadcrumbs or other *very simple* placeholders 
(like your shopping cart inside a storefront module).

But these "blocks" where Christian (I think) and I am talking about are much 
more than some simple placeholders. So I don't seem how you're able to use 
view helpers with very complex situations.

Regards, Jurian