(on Thursday, 17 September 2009, 02:48 PM +0800):
> I am looking forward to the tutorials. I have checked it out, but i don't know
> how to read it? Need i compile it?
You can, but it's simply in DocBook XML -- it's perfectly human
readable; just ignore the markup. :)
> And a question in detail:
>
> Which way to bootstrap is better and regular?
>
> According to my understanding, to bootstrap in index.php is an old way in
> former versions, bootstrap.php as a bootstraper is included lately, right?
>
> So it means the bootstrap is better choice, right?
Yes -- Zend_Application was introduced in 1.8 to simplify and formalize
the bootstrapping process.
> And what's the relationship of bootstrap.php (or index.php) and Zend_Loader?
The bootstrap is instantiated and executed by Zend_Application. Part of
Zend_Application's constructor is the instantiation of
Zend_Loader_Autoloader, which sets up your project autoloading.
> I am reading your reference guide, i will try to find answer myself.
>
> 2009/9/16 Matthew Weier O'Phinney <matthew@zend.com>
>
> I'm going to top-post here, as there's an extensive thread already, and
> I want to summarize some of the ideas.
>
> First, we do make a number of assumptions: (1) you understand PHP, (2)
> you know how to setup a web server, and (3) you have used and written
> PHP classes. Are these inappropriate assumptions? I'd like to think not;
> how can you accurately judge the benefits a framework provides you
> unless you have a baseline to compare against?
>
> That said, I've heard a number of complaints about users unable to get
> the quickstart running -- and almost all of them are due to not
> understanding how to install and configure a web server. It only makes
> sense, then, that we spend some time detailing how to configure, at
> the least, Apache, such that you can get a virtual host up and running
> and pointed at your project.
>
> On that note, my team and I have begun an initiative to provide a more
> tutorial oriented section to the manual. The current manual is primarily
> a reference guide -- it details how to use each component, but not
> necessarily how to use the components together. The new section, which
> we are titling, "Learning Zend Framework," will contain a number of
> tutorials geared at getting users up and running, as well as more
> intermediate tutorials showing more advanced topics like approaches to
> models, integrating ACLs into your application, etc.
>
> You can track our progress via svn:
>
> http://framework.zend.com/svn/framework/standard/branches/user/
> zf-devteam/documentation/manual/en
>
> (We're not doing this on trunk as of yet, as there are some large
> changes to the manual organization that we need to integrate later.)
>
> One benefit of this is that tutorials such as the quick start will now
> be part of the manual -- meaning we can offer translations, but also
> that you, as developers, can help us make the tutorials better.
>
> If there are areas where you've been stuck or could have used more
> information, let us know, and we can begin adding more tutorials.
>
> -- huajun qi <qihjun@gmail.com> wrote
> (on Wednesday, 16 September 2009, 11:28 AM +0800):
> >
> > Hi, i am a freshman to use zend framework.
> >
> > I watched your screenshot video, and then i think zf is easy to use, but
> when i
> > begin to work, i find it so complex!
> >
> > Yes, the example you show in the video is so simple, it include only one
> class,
> > as an example, it works fine.
> >
> > But i read the read the quick start doc, the way to use zf is totally
> > different, i do not like to use command line, it is so sick! I want to
> build a
> > project like the video shows!
> >
> > But the video doesn't mention how to bootstrap, how to include many
> components,
> > how to build a real but not an example project at all.
> >
> > So, any body know what should i do after i create new project folder, and
> put
> > the zend library in it?
> >
> > How to initialize the components I need?
> >
> > Where to write a configuration file and how to include it?
> >
> > Should I create a bootstrap.php file?
> >
> > Why do not you make a regular, fluent, detailed document to present how
> to
> > build a project without using command line?
> >
> > --
> > Location:
>
> --
> Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> Project Lead | matthew@zend.com
> Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Location:
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Matthew Weier O'Phinney
Project Lead | matthew@zend.com
Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/
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