Re: [fw-mvc] S3 and Zend framework : sleeping code in the incubator !

-- Zladivliba Voskuy <nospampam@hotmail.fr> wrote
(on Monday, 29 December 2008, 04:03 PM +0100):
> Well this is a very bad exemple of efficiency. I'm not blaming anyone here, but
> there's 2 S3 proposals in the incubator sleeping for more then a year, dozens
> of messages on the lists asking for S3 classes that work, humm we can't be
> satisfied with that !

Again, the proposal process is clear: when the *AUTHOR* of a proposal
feels it's ready for approval, it is the *AUTHOR*'s responsibility to
mark it as ready for recommendation.

Please be aware that the team at Zend is very small, and part of the
reason that the proposal process exists, and exists in its current
incarnation, is so that we can manage our time well. We simply cannot
track all proposals adequately; many of the proposals languish in an
incomplete state for months or years, and it would be a waste of our
time to review them until the author has indicated that it's ready.

> How could the php community here do better than what we have here ? I see good
> work in an unfinished process, and this is probably happening to other
> projects, so, is there somehting we can do to avoid this kind of loss ?
> Is there a way we could prioritize this kind of projects on to completion, so
> we don't "loose" work that was done ?
>
> Well, hummm... One thing that could be done is making a little more publicity
> arround unfinished projhects Ex: zend could advertise on the front page of the
> zend framework project, on the "give back" column all the "nearly finished"
> projects, so php developers would know better what project they could work on,
> what work is expected.
> It's not a technical solution and does not do the work but might help a little,
> so we don't see good work staying in the incubator too long.
>
> Z.
>
> > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:07:38 -0500
> > From: matthew@zend.com
> > To: fw-mvc@lists.zend.com
> > Subject: Re: [fw-mvc] S3 and Zend framework : sleeping code in the incubator
> !
> >
> > -- Zladivliba Voskuy <nospampam@hotmail.fr> wrote
> > (on Monday, 29 December 2008, 02:23 PM +0100):
> > > I just saw excelent work done by the community here with the amazon S3
> proposal
> > > here : http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/
> > > Zend_Service_Amazon_S3+-+Justin+Plock
> > >
> > > It's been lying there forever. Since S3 in itself is a very important piece
> for
> > > some of us, I would like to ask Zend guys to push this a little forward.
> This
> > > code has been lying donw for too long with no response from anyone it
> seems.
> > > It's good work and it servers no one, it's unfair for the guy who
> developped
> > > this (note that I don't know him, and I don't own him money either ;-)
> > >
> > > Seriously, what's missing to put this on the next version of the framework
> ?
> >
> > We approved it for laboratory development as the API needed more work.
> > It is the responsibility of the proposal author to re-parent the
> > proposal back to "Ready for Recommendation" once s/he feels it is once
> > again ready to review for inclusion in the standard library. If that has
> > not yet been done, likely the author has not completed the work they
> > wisted to complete.
> >
> > --
> > Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> > Software Architect | matthew@zend.com
> > Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/
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Matthew Weier O'Phinney
Software Architect | matthew@zend.com
Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/