(on Tuesday, 30 December 2008, 11:20 AM +0100):
> > Again, the proposal process is clear: when the *AUTHOR* of a proposal
> > feels it's ready for approval, it is the *AUTHOR*'s responsibility to
> > mark it as ready for recommendation.
> >
> > Please be aware that the team at Zend is very small, and part of the
> > reason that the proposal process exists, and exists in its current
> > incarnation, is so that we can manage our time well. We simply cannot
> > track all proposals adequately; many of the proposals languish in an
> > incomplete state for months or years, and it would be a waste of our
> > time to review them until the author has indicated that it's ready.
>
> I understand this issue and I'm not blaming anyone for not having enough
> ressources to do more.
> What I'm proposing is a solution that could help to go a little further : that
> would be simply to promote unfinished work so someone out there can take
> responsability for it and finish the job that was started by someone someday.
>
> The fact that an *AUTHOR*, as you point it out, carries the responsability for
> the entire process, doesn't seems to me to be such a good thing after all,
> since, again as you point it out, you have projects that are lying for month or
> years in the incubator.
> Now a better thing might be to put the responsability of a project more on the
> community then on one guy how might have time to carry on the first steps of a
> new piece of software but not the latest. That way, not the author only, but
> anyone could finish it.
>
> Now for the S3 module, someone here is about to post a third version of if,
> with non of the previous version getting out in the framework. Now you can tell
> me whaterver you want, I'm just saying that this is a project management
> problem that would need to be taken care of.
I've encouraged, and continue to encourage, developers who see
languishing proposals or who have implemented (or wish to imlement)
similar functionality to reach out to the proposal author and offer to
assist. I myself have done so in the past, and have also had others do
so with me (e.g., Jon Whitcraft contacted me to take over the Twitter
proposal and see it to completion for 1.7).
So, if you want to see S3 support in ZF, work *with* one of the proposal
authors to see it to completion -- *that's* how community works. :)
--
Matthew Weier O'Phinney
Software Architect | matthew@zend.com
Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/
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